Erick Erickson, Presbyterian, tells some Catholics they’re not actually Catholic

I know one trait of right wing authoritarians is that they are both utterly clueless concerning other people’s worldviews and utterly without a fragment of doubt concerning their own rectitude and worthiness, but this is shocking even for a rightwing blowhard like’s Erickson.

In Which A Presbyterian Defends the Pope

Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)
Sunday, July 12th at 9:49AM EDT
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Kathleen Kennedy Townsend says Obama represents Catholic Americans better than the Pope.

Now, I may just be a good PCA Presbyterian headed out the door to church this morning, but I’ve got to make a few points on this.

1. I don’t know that a Kennedy knows anything about the Catholic church in reality. Sure, they know they are supposed to show up and go through the routine, but just because someone goes to church does not make them a Catholic, let alone a Christian.

2. Saying Obama represents Catholic Americans better than the Pope is like expressing shock over Richard Nixon becoming President because no one you know voted for him.

3. Does anyone really think a lady whose family is more known for rehab, rape, and Mary Jo Kopeckne than anything else can opine credibly on this issue?

I thought not.

Oh, one more — if the Pope praised abortion rights, tomorrow Newsweek and Ms. Townsend would be supporting him for President.

In order to provide the full context, that is, literally, the entire post, including the title. That title is written in the style of subtitle of a text from the 15th or 16th century, another period when people of different religions were particularly fond of telling each other how wrong they were, particularly this guy.

I’ve written before that I’m not Catholic, but where does this guy get off?

I especially like this line: “but just because someone goes to church does not make them a Catholic, let alone a Christian.” What’s with the “let alone a Christian” phrase?

If someone is Catholic, they are, by definition, Christian. This line seems to separate the two into different categories.

This is, yet again, another example of the unreflective arrogance and tone deafness that is proving such a success for the Republican party.

Update: can you believe this pearl of wisdom from a frequent commenter?

The Catholic Church is a little like the Republican Party.
mbecker908 Sunday, July 12th at 11:44AM EDT (link)
No discipline.

In any rational theological world the Kennedy family – along with every elected Democrat who professes to be a Catholic – would be summarily excommunicated.

Update II: You knew it wouldn’t be long before something like this was dredged up:

When you’re the Antichrist, even the Pope has to meet with you…
bs Sunday, July 12th at 12:39PM EDT

Or this:

I think what she said was a hate crime against Catholics
[W]ould she say Obama is a better Muslim Leader than Mohammed?
Doc Holliday Sunday, July 12th at 12:40PM EDT

Update III: It’s funny that, for all their ranting about “cafeteria Catholics,” stem cells and “the sanctity of life,” no one brings up the church’s opposition to the death penalty.

You see, according to the rightwing authoritarians at and elsewhere, you’re a cafeteria Catholic if you support the right to choose or stem cell research, but if you deviate from the church’s teachings on the death penalty, you’re just exercising your free will.

Another case of do as I say and not as I do. It’s all right for some to ignore Catholic doctrine regarding death penalty and still be real Catholics while at the same time condemning others who deviate from other aspects of church doctrine.

If you don’t understand the logic or if it seems, y’know, like bullshit, then you’re just an over educated elite snob and probably a fake Catholic. After all, who’s a bigger authority on real and fake Catholics than Erick Erickson and all the other hypocritical rightwing authoritarians?

Update IV: another”card-carrying Calvinist Presbyterian,” the one who called Obama the “Antichrist” in the comment quoted above, concern trolls for those poor Catholics.

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One response to “Erick Erickson, Presbyterian, tells some Catholics they’re not actually Catholic

  1. Jorge Bergoglio (a.k.a. “Francis) … is not a Catholic bishop, he is not a Pope, he wasn’t even ordained as a Catholic priest in 1969.
    The Office of Papacy fell vacant in 1914 because of heresy, and it is still vacant.

    Erickson isn’t Christian … his “presbyterian” heretic cult was started in 1560, by heretic John Knox (in Hell forever).

    On 8 December 1965 (the close date of the “vatican-2 council”) every single (apparent) bishops approved the heresy in the “council” documents, and this caused the automatic excommunication of every last one of them … this is why Bergoglio was not ordained in 1969.

    This is all fully proven (including photographic proof of heresy) … on Sections 12 and 13 of >

    And yes … all the infallible Sources of Dogma on Salvation (like the one in the article) is *still* the truth from Heaven … all heretics and un-baptized pagans are losing their immortal souls.

    Christ did not return to northern Germany in 1517 to start the “lutheran” heresy, nor did Christ visit England in 1534 to start the “anglican” heresy, nor did He help heretic Wesely start the “methodist” heresy in 1744, etc.

    Council of Florence, Session 8, Pope Eugene IV, 22 Nov 1439 — Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
    “Whoever wills to be saved, before all things it is necessary that he holds the Catholic faith. Unless a person keeps this faith whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish eternally.”

    Fourth Lateran Council, Pope Innocent III, 1215 A.D. — Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
    “There is but one universal Church of the faithful, outside of which no one at all is saved.”

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