Monthly Archives: October 2009

redstate nuttery: the power of humor as critique

Ridicule of hypocrisy and factual analysis in action:

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As a counterpoint, even in the process of attempting to dispatch the paranoid fringe of the Republican party, the still very rightwing David Frum treats the nuttery with undue respect and, in so doing, gives them the unwarranted air of serious contributors:

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more rejection of reality

Think Progress has a piece up about the House Republicans continuing the theme:

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This of course fires up the True Believers and, in the past, might have drawn enough others to produce a viable payoff. But, again, it ignores the dual nature of the web as both a distribution and an archival system.

This kind of blatant mendaciousness isn’t going to work for them now.

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virtual reality: the refusal to reject demonstrably untrue ‘facts’

In the last few days there has been a rush of examples of rightwingers proudly rejecting reality and substituting a virtual world more suited to their worldview.

First there was the laughably absurd Great Obama Thesis Unveiling.

And today there was the totally neutral and not skewed poll from, uh, the Club for Growth putting Conservative Party candidate Hoffman first in the NY 23 special election.

Then there was the equally absurd, not to mention post dated, revelation that Pelosi would ban Fox from capitol hill.

The left, and people in general, are also at time prone to refuse to accept unsettling facts or, conversely, to be too willing to accept facts that suit their outlook.

But it seems the rightwingers, who so proudly scorn the ‘reality based community,’ are particularly susceptible to such willfully self imposed ignorance. But perhaps I’m biased given my own perspective. Please note examples of people on the left doing this in the comments.

Some examples I can think of are the faked docs relating to Bush’s time freeing the skies of Texas of viet kong and a few racist but completely undocumented quotes attributed to Limbaugh — alongside many of Limbaugh’s comments that are undeniably racist and undeniably accurate.


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Senator Inouye: don’t be a rapist hater

Absolutely disgusting. I don’t care how venerated he is, this is wrong.

From Sam Stein at Huffington Post:

An amendment that would prevent the government from working with contractors who denied victims of assault the right to bring their case to court is in danger of being watered down or stripped entirely from a larger defense appropriations bill.

Multiple sources have told the Huffington Post that Sen. Dan Inouye, a longtime Democrat from Hawaii, is considering removing or altering the provision, which was offered by Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and passed by the Senate several weeks ago.

Firedoglake puts it more succinctly:

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Inouye has a long record of service, but this will forever mar that record if it turns out to be true. I hope he reconsiders.

Crooks and Liars is also weighing in.

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inter racial marriage, penny pinching jews and shooting tree hugging liberals — oh my

The Republican noise machine has been busy the last few days, arguing, among other nuttiness, that:

As of this writing, only the geniuses responsible for the calling Jews penny pinchers have apoligized — if anyone was offended. A fake non apology; but at least they went through the motions.

The justice who refuses to perform inter racial marriages and the shooting liberals is funny Republican representative are defiant and just don’t see how anyone could have a problem with what they’ve said and done.

It’s classic bigotry — they are so deep into prejudice, racism and hatred that they literally cannot imagine how anyone could see the world differently than they do.

It’s just this kind of crack political messaging that will propel the Republicans back into power on a wave of righteous, old, southern, white, conservative protestant indignation and determination to take “their” country back.

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If blue dogs kill reform, they will own their failure

Digby has a great piece up, referencing a piece by Yglesias, in which she concurs with his observation that if the blue dogs kill health care reform because the public option offends their corporate sugar daddies, then they will be forever responsible for their actions.

If the blue dogs and their cheerleaders are right and the public option is in the end a minor facet of reform, then surely they wouldn’t kill the entire package of reform just because the other members of the Democratic caucus listen to the vast majority of Americans who favor the public option and include it in the bill they send to the president.

If they kill the entire package of reform over an aspect they claim is so minor, what is their real motivation? Of course, we all know that it is no coincidence that people like Baucus receive so much dough from the health industry but, for some reason, inconvenient little truths like that get little mention in corporate media, even some — but by no means all — of the more progressive venues.

But killing the entire reform package because of something they claim to be of such minor significance would be a bridge too far. They seem to have no reluctance to lecture the majority of Americans and the majority of their party that the public option is such a minor element of reform that its absence in a final bill should not be enough to kill the package.

By that same logic the reverse is true: if it is indeed such a minor piece of the more important whole puzzle, then its inclusion should not be enough of a bother for the blue dogs to kill the bill, fatally damage their president and in all likelihood snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and doom their party for at least a generation.

Of course, they are always free to publicly and explicitly state any other factors that might be motivating them to be so servile to the health insurance industry.

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Pelosi’s husband buys football team, Limbaugh and rightwingers will not be amused

Obviously, this headline from the Huffington Post is destined to cause some on the right to complain about double standards.

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The story links to a Washington Post report. Here’s a screen grab of some of the thoughtful objections it has inspired.

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This poster spices his faux misplaced outrage with some misogyny and anti latino bigotry, but he’s a ‘patriot’ so it’s okay.

As a commenter on the Huffington Post thread notes, Rush and a whole lot of people on the right are going to be quite irate about this on Monday. But, that’s still a day and a half away. I’m sure we’ll be hearing from them about this well before then.

Their general hatred for Pelosi is of immense proportion. Their collective freak out over this is going to be a spectacle…

Update: In keeping with today’s theme of screen grabs, here’s one from the redstate post and comment thread I linked to in my last post. It’s in reaction to a story claiming that the lyricist from Black Eyed Peas is buying an ownership share of a team.

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Aside from the hilarity and stunning lack of irony of the title, it’s also an indication of the reaction to Pelosi owning a team. I mean, we’re talking about a blond white woman in a rap group with black guys.

Despite the ancient fear and loathing that arrangement brings up, the reaction to Pelosi’s husband owning a football team will still probably be many orders of magnitude greater.

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Rush Limbaugh has made plenty of racist comments

Nate silver notes that some of the comments attributed to Limbaugh are not sourced and that, further, the alleged quotes are so egregious that if they were real, there would certainly be recordings of them.

If we don’t have recordings, then we should not attribute the comments to Limbaugh. That said, as Silver also notes, Limbaugh has uttered a sadly long list of racist comments that are documented beyond a doubt. Stick to the verifiable awfulness.

Predictably, the redstaters are in high dudgeon over this.

I like the boycott ideas above …
Joe_Cor Thursday, October 15th at 8:28AM EDT (link)
but how about extending past a week or two to forever. Go mow the lawn or read a book or paint a picture or any of 1000 different things you could do than watch the NFL in person or on TV. We can all live without it. Maybe a group of investors will come up with an old-fashioned, American version of pro football and we can watch that when it comes along. [Emphasis added]

As many of the other comments in this dreadful thread make clear, the “old fashioned, American version of pro football” the commenter pines for would be, much like the Republican party and teabagging parties, very very very white.

But by calling them racist, I am of course exposing myself as the true racist.

Update: Of course, this pic, part of the signature of a commenter on the thread, isn’t racist at all…
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Also, just for fun, try to decide if this commenter is genuine or a troll engaging in a little parody…

Well if you have had enough do something
reginagroves424 Thursday, October 15th at 1:17AM EDT (link)
I am a woman but I enjoy football.
My favorite is Basketball now I must admit my passion is NCAA Basketball and March Maddness and I enjoy College footballI do not like pro ball period.
They are over payed and really underestimated .
I see everyone complaining but I don’t see much movement I would Boycott the NFL let Sharpton and Jackson fill the seats and watch the TV let the liberals support them the same way with Actors they get bunches for low B movies I haven’t seen many good movies lately,but we still support them.
Quit buying there tickets boycott their sponsers shut off the TV watch a movie play a Video but quit giving them the power to control you you won’t die from lack of high payed competition and it serves you no purpose go to a little league ball game heck the have more action and fun.
They have nailed Rush from fulfilling his dreams and with the taxes and the limitation coming to our freedoms and our Childrens when is enough enough .
People talk about abused Women and they can’t understand why they keep going back for more well people some places have shelters for them where is the American people goin for shelter.
The next one they will go after is BECK because he don’t give a rats ass and will go till he can’t go because they are backdooring the freedom Act and are goin to shut radio down the it will be true communist we will get what the Liberals are giving us now Lies so when is enough enough and if people can control us like Jackson and Sharpton who’s the racist now I am tired of being called a racist when they are the racist and because they are Black they are Using it as a race card I don’t care what color they are heck the Senate is all white but Burris now whos Racist when is enough enough.
When is the repubs and the Conservatives goin to quit talking and start taking action get on the wire tell every one to shutdown the NFL for two weeks don’t buy their season tickets boycott their games do something this could be you heck if they get the Health care bill goin it will be you



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Will Fox and the other rightwingers and Republicans tout the gun show video?

Somehow I doubt it.

Typically, the left is better at this sort of thing. The right’s inattention to this and the other similar stings that are sure to follow will become glaring. It would be smart of them to take this on and try to refute it. My guess is that they’ll first try to ignore it, letting it get a lot of play in other venues.

Then, at least some of them will feel compelled to respond, but by then it will be too late.

On a tangential but relevant subject, as Alex Koppelman notes at Salon, rightwingers are often very, very bad at the intertuubz:

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Update: Once again, the redstaters don’t get teh satire dripping from Ayers’ “admission.”

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redstate in damage control mode over cheering olympics not coming to US

Erick Erickson must be feeling some pressure over all the joy he and other redstaters felt and expressed with unbridled passion because the Olympics won’t take place in the US in 2016.

Responding to and article about Democrats charging that Republicans and right wingers are “rooting against America” at Politico, he pens a defense of rooting for failure.

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While I am not in the least surprised that so many right wingers and Republicans feel this way, I am perplexed as to why they have absolutely no qualms about publicly engaging in such orgiastic joy over this.

Do they honestly believe this kind of behavior will win people over to their cause? Are they in such ecstatic joy over what they perceive as an Obama defeat that they are incapable of understanding how such behavior will be perceived? Do they care?

These people are over the edge. Not only have they long ago abandoned any pretense of making contructive contributions to the discourse, they have made a final, terminal commitment to abandoning any shred of rationality.

And in discarding all claims to rationality so whole heartedly and with such perplexing enthusiasm, they are quickly — and surely — abandoning whatever hopes they may have once had of returning from the political netherworld.

They are operating from a 90’s model in which they think they can get away with spreading lies and speaking out of two sides of their mouths to the party base and more mainstream audiences

Again — yet again — they do not get the archive. Their words, and often their actions, are being recorded and will not go down the memory hole. They, literally, do not know what they’re doing.

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