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Perino: no terrorists attacks occurred during Bush administration

From Media Matters and Huffington Post:

No, really. She actually said that. And she wasn’t joking. And, of course, Hannity and the other guest didn’t bat an eye or, y’know, remind her about the almost 3000 people who died eight years ago or about the fatal anthrax letters.

This is a sad follow up to my last post. In today’s rightwing echo chamber, Perino gets to say that, despite the fact that the worst instance of terrorism in United States history occurred under Bush’s watch, in fact, no terrorist attacks actually occurred under Bush’s watch.

This is what passes for accurate and intelligent analysis for rightwingers and Republicans.

And the really weird part is that she wasn’t intentionally or consciously telling a lie. As far as she, her fellow rightwing Republican talking heads, and most of her Fox ‘News’ audience are concerned, she uttered the god’s honest truth.

If for a moment, they allowed a vague recollection of Sep 11 2001 to enter their consciousness, they would quickly mitigate it by reminding themselves that, of course, those attacks as well as the anthrax letters were in truth Clinton’s fault.

You can’t blame a new president for the mess the previous one left. Well, if the new president is not a Republican, then of course you can do that, but that’s another story.

Update: Via Media Matters, Perino obviously explains that, obviously, it’s your obvious fault for misunderstanding her obviously obvious meaning. Obviously.

Here’s a clip from the comment section:

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The Uninformed Agrieved: at least they know they’re mad

I have to say I was pleasantly surprised by Mathews conduct of this interview and it brings up an important trend: the proud and willful rejection of any reference to facts and rationality in preference for stridently reactionary emotionalism.

Chris Mathews actually came down pretty hard on Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence Rhode Island over his refusal to allow Rep Kennedy to take communion. Mathews asked him if abortion is murder, what should the penalties be and Tobin dodged the question.

Mathews said Tobin must either make specific recommendations or stay out of “law making,” which the Bishop has “transgressed” into. Pretty strong stuff about separation of church and state, saying the church needs to stick to moral suasion.

Mathews notes that, although he shares the Bishop’s views on abortion, Tobin is reluctant to advise “even a minute in jail” for women and girls who have abortions because Americans, Catholics and others, don’t view abortion as a crime.

The piece began with a clip of JFK, still a presidential candidate in Houston, seeking to allay fears that he would be beholden to the Pope as President:

I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish. Where no public official, either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of churches or any other ecclesiastical source. Where no religious body seeks to impose its will, directly or indirectly, upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials.

Mathews repeated the quote, asking Tobin what he thinks of it. Tobin replies that JFK was talking about “establishing a national religion.” Incredulous, Mathews asked how he can assert such a transparently untrue assertion.

You think he meant something different from what he said?

The short answer is yes, he probably does. Although he could be cynically manipulating the faithful, it’s also entirely likely that the good bishop has deluded himself enough that he can purposely accept a ridiculous interpretation of Kennedy’s meaning.

It happens so often that it can become hard to notice. Here is just a short selection from today’s toobnetz:

  • New Left Media (via HuffPo) has a great video showing the vacuousness of Palin autograph seekers:
  • Via TPM, the RNC thinks they lost the last two elections because they were just too leftist, so they think it’s a good idea to implement a purity test.
  • Via Think Progress, teabaggers think it’s just a hoot to jeer a woman whose uninsured pregnant daughter in law died.
  • Via Crooks and Liars, Tucker Carlson, in all seriousness, asserts that Palin is “as smart as” Al Gore and “more experienced than” Obama.
  • Via Plumline, Cheney slams Obama for bowing the the Japanese Emperor despite serving two presidents who did exactly the same thing.
  • Via TPM, Crist spells it out:

    “It’s hard to be more conservative than I am on issues — though there are different ways stylistically to communicate that — I’m pro-life, I’m pro-gun, I’m pro-family, and I”m anti tax.” … “I don’t know what else you’re supposed to be, except maybe angry too.” [Emphasis added]

  • And last, via Political Animal at The Washington Monthly, Steve Benin, addressing the issue, quotes Isaac Chotiner at TNR

    The first problem with this argument is that … Palin is unlikely to become a policy wonk because she is not very smart. What’s more, Douthat’s argument is tautological. Sure, it would be nice for the GOP if Palin and Huckabee were interested in policy. But if they were interested in policy, then they would not be so appealing to the GOP base.

    In other words, the problem is that a large part of the right has no interest in a policy wonk, and sneers at intellectuals and elites and the types of people Douthat would like to see running the party. A candidate who was interested in learning the ins and outs of the welfare state and health care policy is unlikely to ever achieve Palin/Huckabee levels of popularity with the grassroots.

These examples illustrate the views and psyches of a fairly large segment of our society. Recent polls estimate this group to comprise around 20 to 25 percent of the general populace.

That means, assuming you live in an average place, demographically speaking, and you’re in a room or on a bus with 19 other people, four or five of them believe things that are demonstrably untrue and act on those beliefs politically and socially.

In some areas the percentage of your 20 busmates or roomates will be lower; but in other areas, it will be higher — and in some of those areas, very, very much higher.

The web, along with older media like talk radio and Fox News, help fan the flames of such irrationality. But, like printing presses and cans of spray paint, this specific technology is still neutral. Barring further corporate intrusion, it is not in and of itself responsible for the ignorance spread through its reaches.

It just as readily carries counter arguments and refutations. But to do so, it must be peopled with those who are ready and willing to counter the ignorance. Thankfully, it is.

And after coming of age doing so much to fight the spread of misinformation during eight years of rightwing Republican misrule under Bush and Cheney et al, progressives and liberals on the web are well positioned to keep banging on the outside walls of the rightwing echo chamber.

[This post has been changed since original publication to correct the wording of the final paragraph and to acknowledge that emphasis was added to the Crist quote from TPM.]

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Newsmax tries to disappear column advocating a military coup against Obama

Here’s yet another example, as if one were needed, of the rightwingers not getting the archive.

(via TPM)

(via TPM)

These people are not thinking rationally. TPM and Media Matters, among many, many others, have the story, including this link to a PDF of the article and this to a web version of it.

By trying to act as if the column never existed, they are ensuring it will be linked to and reposted innumerable times.

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perceptions and reality

After losing the last two elections, especially the big one last fall, right wingers and Republicans were in quite a funk. They were fighting among themselves and couldn’t seem to get anything right.

Now that they’ve succeeded, for the time being, in disrupting town hall meetings, encouraging people to bring handguns and assault rifles to presidential speeches and scaring the bejeebus out of some particularly gullible citizens, they feel like they’re kings of the world.

The feeling won’t last.

Progressives and liberals are waking from their end of summer naps and telling Democrats, albeit in a more sedate manner than the right wing extremists and astroturfers, that they had better not cave in to the wackery. If they do cave, they will soon be looking for work.

The so called public option is not negotiable. If the Dems and Obama drop the public option, they will not like the reaction their erstwhile supporters will register immediately and in the next few election cycles.

Not being idiots, the Dems and Obama will find a way to keep it. It may be somewhat hamstrung, but it will be there. And, as with other programs like social security, medicare and medicaid, the initial shortcomings will not constrain future improvement of the program.

When the bill, which seems ready to be named in honor of Teddy Kennedy, does go through and is signed by Obama, the right wingers and Republicans will revert to a funk even deeper than what we’ve recently seen.

Victory, they had convinced themselves, was within grasp. It was so close that they could almost touch it. But then, again, Nike will have eluded their grasp.

In one sense, it may be fun to watch. But in another, it will mean more insane and irrational rage and fury that may well lead to violence.

But of course, it won’t be the right wingers’ or Republicans’ fault. They’ll find a way to blame it on Obama.

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It’s okay to call for the Taliban to kill a soldier taken hostage if you’re a rightwinger

No, really. Retired Lt Col Ralph Peters says so on Fox News.

Think Progress has the story:

I want to be clear. If, when the facts are in, we find out that through some convoluted chain of events, he really was captured by the Taliban, I’m with him. But, if he walked away from his post and his buddies in wartime, I don’t care how hard it sounds, as far as I’m concerned, the Taliban can save us a lot of legal hassles and legal bills.

And, fresh off declaring they have an exclusive monopoly on the Real America, our uber patriotic friends at redstate.com are ranting about taxation without representation and wringing their hands about the possible consequences of the Obama administration’s near pitch perfect reprise of the intolerable Acts perpetrated on the colonials by Great Britain:

Congress is Taxation Without Representation
It isn’t irrevocably broken, but it’s well on its way.
Posted by Warner Todd Huston (Profile)
Monday, July 20th at 4:59AM EDT
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We are speeding headlong toward a time when our Congress will have become just like Mad King George’s Parliament, that body from which in 1776 the American colonists separated with the rallying cry of “no taxation without representation.” Our national government is fast becoming just as unrepresentative of the people as far off Briton [sic] was when we went to war to become the United States of America.

Does that seem like a hyperbolic statement to you? At first blush, it might. But a considered look at the direction in which we are quickly heading will prove that, compared to the British Parliament that raised the ire of our forefathers so long ago, today’s Congress shows many signs of the same, oppressive, haughty, disinterested politicians that considered their national government more important than the local’s interests and needs.

Representation is the key word, here. What does it mean?

The poster uses the word “uppity” “haughty” at least four times in the post.

He then goes on to decry, as posters and commenters at redstate.com are in the habit of doing, the 17th amendment, the one entitled “Popular Election of Senators” and that begins “The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each state, elected by the people thereof…”

He prefers the previous method by which senators were selected by state legislatures. Much more democratic, y’see?

Then we have our friendly neighborhood rightwing Cassandra, Glenn Beck, wringing his completely blood free hands about boiling cauldrons of rightwing hate stirred up by those durn lib’ruls.

But, remember, they are the patriots. They are the Real Americans. When they call for the Taliban to execute a captured soldier, it’s for the soldier’s own good.

When they say the current administration’s policies is just a hair’s breadth away from revolutionary era British oppression, they are speaking for the good of democracy.

When they call for taking the election out of the hands of the people, they are actually just trying to increase democracy.

When they blame lib’ruls for extremist rightwing paranoia, they are just hating the sin of liberalism while hoping for the redemption of the Dirty Fucking Hippie sinners.

It’s a rightwing thing. If you don’t understand, you’re just an overeducated elitist snob and a fake American.

You need to STFU while the real Americans start fixing the mess Obama has thrown us into over the last eight months and restore the tranquil utopia we all remember so fondly under the reign of Bush the Lesser.

If you have the stomach for it, read the comments in the redstate.com posts I link to. They’re even crazier — and, so, more patriotic and real American — than the original posts. Reading them is enlightening and disillusioning at the same time.

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Sarah Palin, please sue me

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According to a story on Huffington Post, Sarah Palin’s lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, is threatening to sue people, like Alaskan blogger Shannyn Moore, who say mean things about Palin:

“To the extent several websites, most notably liberal Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore, are now claiming as ‘fact’ that Governor Palin resigned because she is ‘under federal investigation’ for embezzlement or other criminal wrongdoing, we will be exploring legal options this week to address such defamation,” Van Flein said in a statement. “This is to provide notice to Ms. Moore, and those who re-publish the defamation, such as Huffington Post, MSNBC, the New York Times and The Washington Post, that the Palins will not allow them to propagate defamatory material without answering to this in a court of law.”

Kind of like the rightwing patriots who love America so much that they want to see more terrorist attacks that slaughter mass numbers of Americans, Palin apparently loves the first amendment so much that she’s ready to attempt to rip it to shreds when people say things she thinks they should not say.

I don’t know if the allegation came from Moore, but I did read that some in Alaska are saying that Palin, as Mayor of Wasilla, accepted bribes from the company that built an ill fated sports complex in the town in the form of free materials and labor on her family home. Some people claimed that the home, from where Palin made her resignation announcement yesterday, bears a striking resemblance to at least some features of the sports complex.

It seems that Palin and her attorney are a little sensitive on the issue of Moore’s allegations. I wonder if this is the post Van Flein is referring to:

Palin Ethics Complaint Filed…”Where’s Sarah?”
Posted by: shannynmoore | April 22, 2009

THIS PRESS RELEASE JUST IN:

“An ethics complaint against Alaska Governor Sarah Palin will be filed this afternoon asserting that Palin’s involvement with SarahPAC constitutes “outside employment” and “misuse of official position.” Anchorage resident Sondra Tompkins, child disability advocate and mother of a special needs child, is filing the complaint after observing Governor Palin repeatedly display “a pattern of unethical behavior.” Sondra believes that the tipping point for her was Sarah Palin’s most recent abdication of her role as Governor and apparent conflict-of-interest when she spoke at two outside events in Indiana rather than work with the Alaska Legislature during the most critical time, the end of the session.

The complaint alleges:

a) Governor Palin has entered into a contract outside of her official duties with the donors, employees, partners and any or all other participants involved in Sarah PAC.

b) The recent partisan trip to Indiana by the Governor was purely to benefit personal interests, had no benefit for the State of Alaska and was in direct conflict with her official duties.

c) The Governor left the State to participate in these events during the most critical end-of-session Legislative activities, at a time where the legislators themselves are not permitted to leave.

************NOW we know why Sarah was giving an Atlas summation of Alaska while on her Indiana trip. She will call it her “tourism inducement act.” For all the Alaska facts, she sounded like a Alaska Visitor’s Bureau commercial played in local hotels. Now I know why…so she could call it work. I’m sure the thought of “80 active volcanoes” will bring people in droves.
Today should be interesting…

Or perhaps it was this post:

Sarah Palin: The Gift That Keeps On Taking.
Posted by: shannynmoore | December 7, 2008

Details of expenditures to make an Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin, presentable to the people of America trickle out like rain off a roof. But rain off a roof this time of year in Alaska makes for some remarkable icicles. Each drop of information layers on the last, and the label of “Governor Grifter” seems appropriate. John McCain’s choice seems to have earned him at best a “Senator Sucker” nametag.icicles_large1

The New York Times is reporting $165,000 was paid to the stylists who traveled with the campaign and created the glamour girl few of us recognized. “Wardrobegate” initially reported $150,000 of RNC donations was spent on clothing for Sarah Palin. That figure has now been upgraded to $173,000. Stores that only exist in catalogs in Alaska had her full attention; Saks Fifth Avenue, Neiman Marcus, Kate Spade, Brooks Brothers, Escape Skin Care & Day Spa, and now…Victoria’s Secret-shhhhh, don’t tell.

I’ve wondered about the reactions of the individual contributors to the RNC.

An ordinary citizen, concerned about gays getting married, or the right to buy cop killer bullets, sent in $100 from his minimum wage job of changing tires. “Joe the Tire Changer” bought fresh panties for the Vice-Presidential nominee? I’m sure he’s comforted thinking he got that close to the pretty Palin…but his wife might not feel that way. Her panties come in the multi pack, three colors from Wal-Mart.

A part time worker, full time Red-Stater, a woman who uses L’Oreal “because she’s worth it,” and believes that Miss Clairol box color 519 is her God given natural hair color. She pulled $100 out of her “in case I get sick” coffee can fund and sent it to the RNC when her church secretary sent her that email about Barack Hussein Obama being a Godless Muslim. I guess she made a dent in Sarah Palin’s $68,000 make-up bill, $42,615 hair-do bill, and $54,900 stylist bill. Maybe Sarah could explain to Ms. Red-Stater what a stylist is.
The Grifter List goes back a ways:

312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a “per diem” allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business; including November 22, 2007-Thanksgiving Day. The expense report explained it as the Great Alaska Shootout. That’s the annual NCAA college basketball tournament held in Anchorage. Total per diem $16,941.

The governor’s daughters’ and husband’s travel charges: $43,490. One event in New York City, October 2007, when Bristol accompanied the governor to Newsweek’s third annual Women and Leadership Conference, toured the New York Stock Exchange. Alaska paid for three nights in a $707-a-day hotel room.

Palin, before her nomination, accepted gifts valued at $25,367 from industry executives, municipalities and a cultural center whose board includes officials from some of the largest mining interests in the state. Some of the “gifts” included a $2,200 ivory puffin mask, a woven grass fan worth $300 and a $150 ivory necklace. This may explain her pro Pebble Mine stance.

Alaska Grifter Total: $85,798
VP Grifter Total: $330,000
Total Grifter Total: $415,798

Count on the Palinistas to line up and defend the grifting. The per diem abuse has been dismissed by her staff with comparisons to former Governor Frank Murkowski. That’s like comparing a bad bartender to Jim Jones’ Guyana Kool-Aid Stand and drinking up.
Palin Spokes-model Meg Stapleton recently responded to the New York Times inquiries with, “The decisions reflected in this disclosure are financially poor decisions made by campaign staffers hired by the campaign and not the governor…(Governor Palin) is absolutely appalled at the news and the amount of money reportedly spent on the vice-presidential campaign.”

I wonder if Joe the Tire Changer and Ms. Red Stater would like their money back.

It is never Sarah Palin’s bad judgment or poor decisions that get her press. It’s always the fault of someone else.
And so the drips continue…and a stalactite status icicle hangs in front of Alaskans. Sarah Palin is the “gift” that keeps on taking.

Update: Think Progress has a Bradblog story about the alleged corruption and mentions a Max Blumenthal piece in The Daily Beast about the corruption charge and also links to a Politico piece on the threat of legal action.

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Sadly, No! reports on more rightwing patriots hoping for attacks on America

These rightwingers are so patriotic and they love America so much that they’re hoping to see another catastrophic terrorist attack that kills vast numbers of Americans. It’s the only way to save us, of course.

Kinda like hitting rock bottom, I suppose. Anyway, you know these rightwingers only say this because they, unlike the DFHs, truly love love love America. And they hope for more terrorist attacks killing untold numbers of Americans because it’s the only thing that will save America.

If it sounds complicated or crazy or, you know, even like rooting for the enemy, then you are not sufficiently patriotic to understand that sometimes you have to nuke a city to save it and kill maybe even millions of Americans in order to save them.

In short, you are a leftwing scumbag and you don’t get to speak on such sage matters that these patriots understand better than you do.

The poster at Hot Air who Sadly, No! link to, Allahpundit, is mocking Beck and Scheuer. In the process, he mischaracterizes leftwing opposition to the Iraq war which is, I suppose, to be expected. But at least he’s not endorsing the Beck/Scheuer craziness.

Most of the Hot Air commenters, however, are not amused.

The clincher comes at 10:32 pm, July 1. As Sadly, No! quotes:

I hate to say this, but if there is going to be another terrorist attack (however, I think that Obama is a terrorist attack)I hope it happens in Washington D.C.

We have friends there and I told them to get their animals out of there to be safe and prepare.

I hope all these evil politicians are taken out. There, I said it. I have had it. This is not what this Country was formed on and what it’s all about. If it can’t be Washington, D.C. then please let it be San Francisco.

suzyk on July 1, 2009 at 10:32 PM

[As of Thursday morning, July 3, this comment is still up at Hot Air]

Update: Linkins at Huffington Post writes about Jon Stewart’s take on it.

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