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Redstate’s Erickson: threats of violence are bad, but not really that big a deal and Democrats deserve them anyway

[This post has been edited to correct the spelling of Eric Cantor’s name.]

This could be the beginning of the rightwing meltdown.

If King George Will Not Listen . . .

This is one of those posts that has to be written and has to be said, though I know going in to it I’m going to get beaten up from all sides, though especially from a left particularly out to get me right now.

Nonetheless, this must be said.

The threats, potential acts of violence, and violence against those who voted for the health care legislation must be condemned. They are neither helpful to those seeking repeal nor the acts of a civilized society. I comfortably say I speak for all the front page posters here condemning the violence and threats. The people who think this country has descended into the darkness do in fact send us down a dark path themselves with these actions.


I’ve said for weeks I was a bit fearful of what would happen as a result. I sincerely pray we are not on the cusp of some group of angry and now unhinged mob lashing out at congressmen for a vote in the Congress. But something seems to be brewing and I frankly don’t think the Democrats should at all be surprised. They were and they knew they were playing with fire to advance legislation many Americans see as the undoing of the American Experiment. Some of those Americans will now conclude that, like with the founders, if King George will not listen, King George must be fought. [emphasis added]

In a sane political environment, this could be the beginning of a rightwing meltdown. But, in our current politics, it’s probably not. How many Republican party officials will condemn this?

I’d be surprised if one did. Cantor is supposed to speak on the violence in a couple of hours today — will he be called, or feel compelled, to comment on this disgusting post?

This mealy mouthed cowardly condemnation of violence in one weak breath followed by full throated expressions of support and understanding of the violent impulses is exactly what too many on the right think they can get away with.

They cannot.

They can also not get away with claiming Rep Lewis lied about being the recipient of our most vile racial epithet. They are on record and will pay the price for cozying up to violent extremists in the court of public opinion and at the ballot box.

Erickson is explaining away, and in so doing, condoning and supporting political violence. Now and forever, he owns this.

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Redstate commenter calls people with Obama bumber stickers “targets”; how will admins respond?

I’ve noted before, as have the redstate admins and regulars themselves, the far rightwing Republican site aggressively polices its comments sections.

They decry and swarm comments they disagree with, frequently ban commenters for comments they deem inappropriate and even disappear comments they see as sufficiently problematic.

I hope they do some or all of the above to this comment and commenter. Unfortunately, I won’t be holding my breath. They tend to be a bit selective in their faux completely fair and balanced (TM) outrage.

That Obama sticker on your bumper………
makemyday Thursday, March 18th at 9:50AM EDT (link)
used to show the rest of us how stupid you are.

If this passes that bumper sticker just made you a target!

When all else fails…….. Shoot!

“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.” –American author Mark Twain (1835-1910)

“We should never despair, our Situation before has been unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust, it will again. If new difficulties arise, we must only put forth new Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the exigency of the times.” –George Washington, letter to Philip Schuyler, 1777

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redstaters advocate violently trashing the constitution

The mods and regulars at Trike Force HQ are well known for vociferously disagreeing with anyone who veers one iota from their fringe diktats. It takes very little for commenters to get banned and some even have their blasphemy expunged from the record, leaving only white space where their heresy once appeared.

So, when a comment stays up and does not draw any rebuke or even mild opposition, we can assume it has the blessings of both the site admins and the general community. A site that monitors and polices their comments so thoroughly assumes some of the responsibility for those comments that remain and are not opposed.

For example, consider this exchange:

We are approaching an epic confrontation…
rcov092 Tuesday, December 22nd at 9:53PM EST (link)
we fight with all our might and if…if…we cannot roll them back, I vote we embrace Cloward Pivens and collapse the whole thing in on them and start over. If that happens they will fold like cheap suits and we can build something even better. We have 90% of a new Constitution already written and now know where the weaknesses are to remake it even stronger.

and this response:

MacAoidh Tuesday, December 22nd at 10:08PM EST (link)
Or maybe we’ll just start shooting.

We’re the ones with the guns and the balls to use them, after all.

They lost an election and were unable to completely screw up health care reform so they want to ditch the constitution and they want to do so violently.

These comments came in response from another commenter claiming to be a Republican congressional staffer and who was trying to argue that moving up a vote from xmas eve to the morning of December 24 was not that big of a deal.

The trikers are up in arms over it and really, really don’t like the Republican leadership. But the real point here is that no one opposed or even mildly questioned the commenter who advocated overturning the government or the one who advocated doing so violently.

Let’s be clear: this is reactionary, authoritarian and anti democratic. And they are threatening violence.

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